XBOX ONE - Allgemeiner Thread

[Dante]

Kaum zu glauben, keine neue XBox auf der CES angekündigt.

Wer hätte das nur gedacht, Microsoft is doomed

[wynk]

Der Codename ist Kommissar Nuuuull Nuuuuull Schneiiiiideeeerr!

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Die Konsole erscheint unter dem fertigen Namen "Holz ist"

[Osa-chan]

Naja, ich hab ehrlich gesagt auch nicht damit gerechnet.

Also warten wir auf die E3.

[CubeKing]

Auf der dann auch nichts präsentiert wird.

[Cube]

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Die Konsole erscheint unter dem fertigen Namen "Holz ist"

Und für alle Vorbesteller gibt es exklusiv "diiiiiiese Nüsschen!"

[gunman]

Naja, ich hab ehrlich gesagt auch nicht damit gerechnet.

Also warten wir auf die E3.

Ich freu mich ja schon auf die ganzen Gesichter, wenn da eine Xbox 360 1.5 mit fest eingebautem Kinect angekündigt wird.

[Osa-chan]

Wenn MS ihre Videospielsparte mit Volldampf in den Abgrund steuern wollen, klar dann schon.

[CubeKing]

Wer braucht noch Videospiele, wenn sie es doch endlich geschafft haben eine eigene Distributions-Platform in die heimischen Wohnzimmer der Welt zu bringen? War doch von anfang an das Ziel und Videospiele waren dafür der Fuss in der Türangel.

[wynk]

PS3 Fanboy Alarm!

[CubeKing]

Die Blödfirma Sony hat ähnliches mit der PS-Marke und Formaten wie der DVD (Erfolg), der UMD (Vollflop) oder der BD (teuer erkaufter Erfolg...) versucht.

[gunman]

Xbox 720 Will Be Six Times as Powerful as Current Gen
Sources confirm fall 2013 release, detail graphics processing power.

The next Xbox will ship to retailers in late October or early November of next year with six times the processing power of the Xbox 360, sources close to the project have told IGN.
Following initial reports from tech blogs Fudzilla and SemiAccurate, our sources have confirmed that mass production of the system's GPU will indeed begin by the end of 2012 but will not, however, be based on AMD's 7000 series Southern Islands GPU. Instead, the processor will be derived from the 6000 series, which was introduced last year. More specifically, it will be akin to the Radeon HD 6670, which offers support for DirectX11, multidisplay output, 3D and 1080p HD output. The chip currently has a market price of upwards of $79.99.

In real terms, the Xbox 720's raw graphics processing power is expected to be six times that of the Xbox 360 and will yield 20-percent greater performance than Nintendo's forthcoming console, the Wii U.
Developers are likely to receive development kits based on the system's final configuration in August. Projected pricing for the console was not provided.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/01/24/x ... urrent-gen

Zum 20%-stärker-als-WiiU Vergleich:

IGN seems to have derived the compairison for the Wii U by doing a benchmark test between the Xbox's laughably underpowered 6670 and the lowest model of the RV770 line (laut Gerüchten basiert die WiiU GPU darauf), the 4730. This is complete speculation on their part, as the RV770 line actually goes all the way up to the 4870. And basically anything in the 4XXX line above the 4730 outstrips the 6670 significantly. After all, if IGN had more definite clues about the Wii U GPU, they wouldn't keep it quiet. They never do.

Hmm, IGN redet zwar oft Bullshit, hat aber trotzdem gute Quellen (siehe pre-E3 WiiU Gerüchte).
Klingt jedenfalls plausibel, wenn MS einen Massenmarkt tauglichen Preis zum Launch anbieten will, ohne die Hardware zu subventionieren.
Vor allem wenn man bedenkt, dass Kinect höchstwahrscheinlich immer mit in der Box ist.

Würde es sich bewahrheiten, könnte die WiiU in der nächsten Gen also doch besser dastehen als gedacht.
Die E3 wird definitiv spannend.

[MrBurns]

IGN = Bullshit.
Eine Konsole mit den Specs erst im nächsten Jahr zu launchen macht ziemlich wenig Sinn. Da braucht man Nintendo nicht ein Jahr Vorsprung geben.

Das hab ich gestern schon mal in dem Project C.A.R.S. Thread gepostet:

Bezüglich der Leistungsfähigkeit der Grafikkarten für Xbox720/PS4 ist dieser Post hier sehr interessant:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458935

Und dieser Post:

This is not true. The devkit is/was based on the RV770LE (= Radeon HD4830), a faulty version of the RV770Pro/XT that is indeed roughly equivalent to the RV740. The fact that they're using a faulty chip, as well as 2008 tech in the devkit is an indication that the chip is (or was, our latest update on this is from some time ago) there as a placeholder chip for a more modern chip. It would make absolutely no sense for Nintendo to pick a 2008 design, and most definitely not a RV770LE. My hypothesis is that this is because of Nintendo trying to get their chipmaker (NEC) to get the chip done on 32nm or maybe 28nm.

A chip equivalent to the Radeon HD6970 - one that has 1536 shader processors and a comparable amount of other stuff - is probably the best possible for the PS4 and Xbox Next GPUs. It's probably the best that can be fitted on a console-sized and console-powered GPU as long as the manufacturers are bound to use 28nm for it (which is probably until 2014). Based on the RV770LE figure, Nintendo is likely to go for around 1/3 of their competitor's capacity (equivalent of 512 SPUs). This means the Wii U is ~2-3x more powerful than a 360 and the Xbox Next ~2-3x more powerful than the Wii U, if we're talking raw GPU performance.

One thing to note is that if this graphics guru at EA is so freely speculating about the next consoles' specifications, it indicates that he hasn't been working with a devkit yet. If a graphics guru at EA isn't working on new hardware, what does that tell us?

[Osa-chan]

Nice. Danke für den interessanten Link.

[Vater Unser]

Der Codename ist Kommissar Nuuuull Nuuuuull Schneiiiiideeeerr!

SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW

Die Konsole erscheint unter dem fertigen Namen "Holz ist"

Nein, der fertige Name lautet Fluktuation 8

SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW

Die Konsole erscheint unter dem fertigen Namen "Holz ist"

Und für alle Vorbesteller gibt es exklusiv "diiiiiiese Nüsschen!"

Oh was schöne Nüssschen!

[gunman]

Und wieder eine Runde Gerüchte, diesmal von Kotaku:

Sources: The Next Xbox Will Play Blu-Ray, May Not Play Used Games (And Will Introduce Kinect 2)

Microsoft will upgrade its disc technology for its next Xbox from DVDs to Blu-Ray discs, catching up to rival Sony, games industry sources tell Kotaku.

Sony's PlayStation 3 currently supports Blu-Ray, which can contain 25 or 50GB of data compared to DVD's 9GB.

But that disc detail could be far less impactful to the next generation of game consoles than the assertion I've heard from one reliable industry source that Microsoft intends to incorporate some sort of anti-used game system as part of their so-called Xbox 720.

It's not clear if that means that the system wouldn't play used games or how such a set-up would work. Obvious approaches—I'm theorizing here—like linking a copy of a game to a specific Xbox Live account could seemingly be foiled by used-game owners who would keep their system offline. My source wasn't sure how Microsoft intended to implement any anti-used game system in the new machine.

A push in any way by Microsoft against used games would likely be cheered from publishers sick of seeing retailers like GameStop crow about their revenues from the sale of used games. But it could potentially anger consumers who rely on buying cheaply-sold used games or even pass games to relatives or friends.

One source familiar with Microsoft's plans for the new Xbox said Microsoft plans to ship their new Xbox with a new version of its red-hot Kinect hands-free sensor system. The new Kinect would contain an on-board processor, a feature originally intended for the first Kinect. That processor would enable a new Kinect to more effectively detect users' motions.

I'm also hearing that Microsoft is interested in making a smaller controller for its new console.

And what of gaming site IGN's report that the machine could be six times more powerful than the Xbox 360? From some industry sources I'm hearing that that's the right ballpark and that Microsoft is estimating they might even get to 8x the Xbox 360. But another insider clarified that no one in the industry has development kits yet and that any talk about specs right now is still hypothetical.

http://kotaku.com/5879202/sources-the-n ... e-kinect-2